Read through this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_equipment_testing
And report back which camp you fall into, and perhaps a story/experience as to why.
Importantly: let's all play nice, and agree to disagree, rather than take someone else's opinion as an attack on our our own opinion.... :dop:
As my good friend likes to say in such cases of disagreement: you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
This is not a thread where anyone should aim to convert another from their 'religious' beliefs.
I'll go first: I'm a subjectivist.
This due to a very particular experience which led me to believe that, when listening on a very nuanced/fine/detailed scale, I cannot tell the difference between what sound is actually produced, and what I think I heard.
The experience that led me to this belief was when, many years back, I worked on the mines, and regularly had my hearing tested.
The first time I was subjected to this claustrophobic ordeal was in a small soundproof booth, with hideously uncomfortable hard-rubber on-ear headphones, and a button which you pressed whenever you heard a 'beep' sound in either of your ears.
This is acknowledged by audiologists to be a subjective hearing test, whereas the diagnostic test has something to do with testing the frequency response of your hammer, stirrup, and anvil inner-ear bones (as I unexpertly understand it).
Now, I was put in this booth for the first time, and instructed to press the button whenever I heard a beep, and then, unbeknown to me, the clinician went on lunch leaving me sweating there.
I mind f*kt myself for an hour trying to discern between beeps I think I heard and ones I actually heard.
Did the test loop? Was it more likely 10min of the 60min in actuality?
I have no idea - but what was for certain, with the prolonged acute listening, with just my very loud breathing and very subtle actual or imagined beeps, I concluded that my brain played a significant subjective role in what my ears were/weren't hearing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_equipment_testing
And report back which camp you fall into, and perhaps a story/experience as to why.
Importantly: let's all play nice, and agree to disagree, rather than take someone else's opinion as an attack on our our own opinion.... :dop:
As my good friend likes to say in such cases of disagreement: you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
This is not a thread where anyone should aim to convert another from their 'religious' beliefs.
I'll go first: I'm a subjectivist.
This due to a very particular experience which led me to believe that, when listening on a very nuanced/fine/detailed scale, I cannot tell the difference between what sound is actually produced, and what I think I heard.
The experience that led me to this belief was when, many years back, I worked on the mines, and regularly had my hearing tested.
The first time I was subjected to this claustrophobic ordeal was in a small soundproof booth, with hideously uncomfortable hard-rubber on-ear headphones, and a button which you pressed whenever you heard a 'beep' sound in either of your ears.
This is acknowledged by audiologists to be a subjective hearing test, whereas the diagnostic test has something to do with testing the frequency response of your hammer, stirrup, and anvil inner-ear bones (as I unexpertly understand it).
Now, I was put in this booth for the first time, and instructed to press the button whenever I heard a beep, and then, unbeknown to me, the clinician went on lunch leaving me sweating there.
I mind f*kt myself for an hour trying to discern between beeps I think I heard and ones I actually heard.
Did the test loop? Was it more likely 10min of the 60min in actuality?
I have no idea - but what was for certain, with the prolonged acute listening, with just my very loud breathing and very subtle actual or imagined beeps, I concluded that my brain played a significant subjective role in what my ears were/weren't hearing.
