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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PAPPA3" data-source="post: 775912" data-attributes="member: 1199"><p>You hit the nail on the head. This amp is from a time when manufacturers wanting to prove a point that a solid AVR can compete with separates, and the Z11 was Yamaha's contribution. Thanks for the list. The Z11 is the second most costly in your list U$4500-00, also the second heaviest at 34kg! If you look through the comments on the thread, the Z11 is a favourite too. I'm going to take the plunge and replace the DSP board. My friend has helped me out with a few quid for my pain. The Z11 is a one box stereo/AV solution, even if it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of modern technology. It doesn't even have a radio. It was built for AV audiophilia.</p></blockquote><p></p>