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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Katji" data-source="post: 946667" data-attributes="member: 17768">imo, Chinese innovation is in manufacturing...the entire process, including distribution and so on. The other innovation is that they transformed a very big country, a very big population [of mostly peasants, and extensive poverty] into a modern industrial country in about 50 years. Unprecedented in human history. Is innovation the same as invention? (I see we've moved from referring to innovation to referring to invention. Subtle.) However,...everything that is developed, that humans develop, is based on what came before, what was developed before. Starting with science. Generally, that is. That some things were developed by particular groups of people, in particular regions, in particular time periods, is only significant...like up to a point. The overall thing is migration and interaction and mixing. ...While we focus on particular time periods, that process is continuing.</blockquote>